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mercinater Chuunin
Posts : 265
| Subject: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:33 am | |
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AdRyAn-IcE-mAn Student
Posts : 96 Age : 30 Location : Romania
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:35 am | |
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Eol Admin
Posts : 1009 Location : Dark side of the Force
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:42 am | |
| Well there are to points out of the hero build:
1) There is no Sai's bird model
2) I dont like force synergy enough with Neji and Nidaime, i would like to see something more natural on his build
Now the two firts skill looks nice, maybe adding 3 seconds to the effect of the slow in the first spell will be good.
You need to revamp the third and ultimate spell. | |
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mercinater Chuunin
Posts : 265
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:07 pm | |
| 1.For the Bird jutsu, I was thinking it could be like sai becomes a flying black circle that hits the enemy. That way it doesn't need new models and also I put that in the flavor text as "because he's flying so fast".
2.You want me to revamp neji and nidaime or do you mean natural synergy on this sai?
3.I'll think of regular easier jutsu for 3rd spell and work up a new ult
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Eol Admin
Posts : 1009 Location : Dark side of the Force
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:24 pm | |
| - Quote :
- 2.You want me to revamp neji and nidaime or do you mean natural synergy on this sai?
On this Sai ofc | |
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AdRyAn-IcE-mAn Student
Posts : 96 Age : 30 Location : Romania
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:45 pm | |
| - Eol wrote:
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- Quote :
- 2.You want me to revamp neji and nidaime or do you mean natural synergy on this sai?
On this Sai ofc ontopic:yes eol right off:did u test the map? faster cuz the day is ending | |
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Nyaaaasshka Student
Posts : 136
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:28 pm | |
| 3 skills, just Add "kills everyone in 900 aoe"
btw what the fuck wrong with this snake icon ? for me it looks like military helicopter xD | |
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mercinater Chuunin
Posts : 265
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:46 pm | |
| I don't get it >,> you mean the ult should be a nuke? and thanks for that armor calculator!
evertime i'm editting it, it seems like something in the post keeps changing by itself
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Nyaaaasshka Student
Posts : 136
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:22 pm | |
| I mean that third skill is so fucking overpowered. You just took kibas passive plus Yond passive plus guy passive, you think this is ok ))) ? | |
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mercinater Chuunin
Posts : 265
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:15 pm | |
| well kiba's is increasing his damage and atk spd, this one is movement and attack speed which isn't that much unless you stack with item builds which makes that justifiable yonds also is increase damage but through his movement speed
I thought the crit was ok because he's a range character first so the contact ratio compared to melee chars is slightly longer and 1/5 hits for x1.8 (changed it to 1.75) is like 30% zab's crit ability
but if it's still too much i'd say a fair medium would be x1.5 crit
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Jiraiya Anbu
Posts : 485 Age : 30 Location : Mount Mbyoku.
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:54 pm | |
| 3rd spell too op.And as for description,he doesn't fight with brush.He has his tanto 20%as 20% ms already too op not to mention crit -.- | |
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mercinater Chuunin
Posts : 265
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:43 am | |
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Jiraiya Anbu
Posts : 485 Age : 30 Location : Mount Mbyoku.
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:59 pm | |
| - mercinater wrote:
- Passive Revamped
Make him like morphling's ultimate from dota.Makes a copy that takes full dmg but deals 50% or like zabuza's water clone from rvn,takes full dmg deals no dmg and has xxx chance to trap opponent in water prison for xxx secs. XD ? Because full dmg take full dmg deal i mean WTF ?! too op.and gets hold for 3 secs ????????????????? -.- And you could change passive.Temari has similar passive so it's just boring and uncreative | |
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mercinater Chuunin
Posts : 265
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:39 pm | |
| mei's ultimate passive is also "everytime uses a jutsu" this sai gain's atk dmg instead of movementspeed
I don't know perspective from dota but i will revamp ult | |
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Jiraiya Anbu
Posts : 485 Age : 30 Location : Mount Mbyoku.
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:21 am | |
| Dunno since sakon has same spell and it would be better to make it more unique...... | |
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mercinater Chuunin
Posts : 265
| Subject: Re: Ranged Agi Carry: Sai Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:28 pm | |
| Well its pretty hard to come up with something completely original when we gotta consider if there's models and how difficult it is to code | |
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