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PostSubject: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:14 pm

Taijutsu Specialist


I)Stats

Str:19+ 2.2
Agi:24+ 3
Int:13+ 1

Affiliation: Konoha
Damage: 50-55
Armor: 5
Movespeed: 315
Attack Range: 100

As you can see, he has a pretty average stats. His Str and Agi gain are normal, save his Int gain which is pretty low. You could say he is not a smart fellow, with his fighting style compensating for it.

II)Pros & Cons

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Pros

  • One of the best carries in late game
  • Has the ability to wipe out the opposing team when farmed enough
  • Opposing enemies may miss 75% chance
  • Solo-Kyubi Ability
  • Imba Atk Speed
  • He's a badass (;
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Cons
  • Mostly focused and hunted early game
  • No escape mechanism whatsoever
  • Very squishy

As you can see, he has a lot of pros than his cons. If you can survive the first 1-20 minutes of the game and get your core, you are pretty much very close to having your Beyond Godlike abilities

III)Skills

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IV)Skill Build

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Before everything else, I'll just say that no skill build is the right one or is the best! It always depends on the situation you are in, and feel free to experiment on every single one of them. No one's stopping you.

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Here i decide to max out Springtime of Youth Full Power because is a good skill for farming. If you feel confidence try to hit the enemy heroe, you probably will scare him and if that the case, chase him and use initial lotus in order to deal more damage. Be care with the enemy creeps because they are going to hit you while you are harrasing their heroe. With this you should able to dominate your line.


V)Item Build

Starting



Pretty much your average starting build, with 2 badges and Idate's boot for stats, shindguards for minimize the creep damage and foot supply for heal.


Core



Yep, that's pretty much your core. Seems a lot? Well, you can farm that under 30 minutes provided you only had 2 or less deaths, and you net at least 5 kills. You could also skip Remi and rush Idate's Sandals. If you safely farmed and killed The Kyubi, then that's your core.


Treads vs Idate's Sandals

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Luxuries



CSM: Good against Zabusa, Gai, Butterfly, and every other miss buffs!
Ragnarok: Trust me, you're enemy will go down in a matter of seconds.
GGS: Your dream come true
Hokage Armor: Armor, Attack Speed, and Reduced Armor to enemies will really benefit you and your teammates for easier team rapes.
Jashin rage: The very best orb for you, my friend. After this, no one else can kill you


Rejected Items



If you ever get at least one of these items, I would be the happiest person in the world to call some psychological help for you. Why? Because these are the worst items you could beside all these items have an Orb effects and are useless for Lee.




Honestly? Nidaime's Helm? You already have a freakin' ulti that's like Nidaime's Helm, besides they don't stack.




Progabation? There is no point here at least if you want to give 1 second of break to your enemy allowing him to react and counter you.



Assasin Cloack...mmm not good against Neji or Hinata also if the other team get a Gem , well you are Fu#$% up.
VI)Teamfights

After you farm up your Core items and get Kyubi essense (assuming your enemy didn't get it first), you can join the teamfights. Remember this, though... DON'T BE THE FIRST ONE TO GO IN AND RAMBO AROUND THE ENEMIES IN A TEAM CLASH. Let your initiatiors do their job first, coz if you went in first you're just going to die/lose your Kyubi essence quickly. So go into the clash last, or be the 3rd one to go in for safety.

This is the list of the high priority-->lowest priority heroes/roles in a teamfight.


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  1. Initiators: Depending in the situation, if the enemy initiatior goes in first, then obviously you will take them down first after you awaken from their disable.
  2. Spellcasters/Supports: If your initiatior does his job well, then if possible, take out those spellcasters or supports hiding in the background. With them unleashing havoc with their spells and disables, it might be hell for you, except if you have gotten your Gelel, then you can take them down easily.
  3. The Rival Carry: After that you got to deal with the rival carry. IF they are well farmed and fat as you are, then 99% of the chance you will win, except if you're against Gai. Remember, only a well and equally farmed Gai can take out Lee.
  4. Tanks: Lastly, after you take out the enemy carry, you're going to deal with the tank last. Why? Well, their specialty is tanking the whole damage for his team, so if his team is dead and he is still alive, more likely than not you won the teamfight. That's why you gotta take him out last, if you can ignore him the whole teamfight.

VII)Good Allies



They hold your opponent down in place for easier whacking.



They ensure you safety and security.

VII)Conclusion

Lee is pretty much a carry hero. To be exact, he's a Hard-carry, or a hero that excels very well in the latest parts of the game that can overwhelm and dominate the opposing team. Because of his power, he is mostly focused on the early parts of the game and hunted to stop him from farming if not...You are playing against noobs!

Now let's get to the point. Let's just say he can pretty much dominate the opposing team when he gets his core, and only a few heroes and a few items can stop this bad guy from running around, causing havoc and destruction.


Also you need to remember this:

First and foremost, before you pick Lee, ask yourself..

  • Does my team need a carry?
  • Can I survive the enemy nuking for the first few half of the game before I farm my Gelel?
  • Is my team relying on a specific strategy?
  • Are my teammates noob or not?


Well, if you're playing pub then its possible that you're teammates will pick shit load of carries like Gai, Juugo, Hinata and when that happens, don't pick Lee! Remember, one Hard-carry is enough for one team. Its like having two Kobe Bryant in the Lakers, you only need one right ?


Guys sorry for the delay but i was to bussy looking for the icons and let me tell you...was a pain in the ass find them all. Cya in the next guide and pls dont forget to vote and comment!

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PostSubject: Rock Lee guide   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:22 pm

Very complete and useful guide! You are getting more and more better! Congratulatios! And sorry for annoying you. I will test the build. Muchas Gracias!
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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:23 pm

Deeper guide and i have to say that you are the best at doing this! i like how you add all that info. Now, i feel a litte bad because i used to get posion claws on lee, not very effective in late game.

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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:24 pm

A very nice build, but i dont agree with ggs, because evasion doesnt stack, and i wud say idates are better because the same reason is why u reject nidaimes helm, u already get alot of as from ulti, dont need more.
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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:31 pm

Revan2009 wrote:
A very nice build, but i dont agree with ggs, because evasion doesnt stack, and i wud say idates are better because the same reason is why u reject nidaimes helm, u already get alot of as from ulti, dont need more.

Sure, they dont stack but you can get perma miss, for example if Gai blink on you and dont activate his ulti, you can beat him only with the GGS miss buff. Now if he activate his ulti you will need more chances to make him miss, here is when you activate your skill to avoid that critical that usually pwnd everyone in 3 hits.


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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:35 pm

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Revan2009 wrote:
A very nice build, but i dont agree with ggs, because evasion doesnt stack, and i wud say idates are better because the same reason is why u reject nidaimes helm, u already get alot of as from ulti, dont need more.

Sure, they dont stack but you can get perma miss, for example if Gai blink on you and dont activate his ulti, you can beat him only with the GGS miss buff. Now if he activate his ulti you will need more chances to make him miss, here is when you activate your skill to avoid that critical that usually pwnd everyone in 3 hits.


Agree with Eol.

But what about twing fang? i think is very useful for gank and chase.
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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:39 pm

If there is no more than 1 nuker in the other team, sure you can change Samurai Helm for twing fang, but ofc your ultimate is a doble edge skill so be careful when you use it and dont forget to desactivate it once you finish the task

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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:40 pm

Eol wrote:
Revan2009 wrote:
A very nice build, but i dont agree with ggs, because evasion doesnt stack, and i wud say idates are better because the same reason is why u reject nidaimes helm, u already get alot of as from ulti, dont need more.

Sure, they dont stack but you can get perma miss, for example if Gai blink on you and dont activate his ulti, you can beat him only with the GGS miss buff. Now if he activate his ulti you will need more chances to make him miss, here is when you activate your skill to avoid that critical that usually pwnd everyone in 3 hits.


Perma miss is a dream come true as Eol said.
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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:45 pm

Or you can change GGS for a nice Ombu paw or if you feel like the king of the world take a bigger risk and get an Amenonuhoko. I recomend this change only if there is not other carry heroe in the other team

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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:49 pm

i dont suggest BkB as core . Why dont u try switching it w/ lothars or something . Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:53 pm

For the same reason i post it in the guide, its to risky for a meele heroe get Assasin cloack, 1 gem, Sand Eyes or just Neji/Hinata and 3400 gold right to the garbage

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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:12 pm

good guide
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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:20 pm

Hell yeah good guide, you dont need TFA your ult appart to fuck you up you get a good boost of as so no need to get that kind of item.
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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:28 pm

Natsu wrote:
Hell yeah good guide, you dont need TFA your ult appart to fuck you up you get a good boost of as so no need to get that kind of item.

Sure but can be an optional build, twing + tobi = G_G
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PostSubject: Perma evasion   Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:32 am

I don´t understand perma miss.
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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:55 am

HenriqueFB wrote:
I don´t understand perma miss.

Permanent miss, GGS give you certaing % to make your enemy miss when they want to land a strike on you, and Lee's skill give him 75% of chance to miss when enemy want to strike him.

When you fight againts Gai for example, he is going to miss some attacks on you because of the GGS but not all , when he increase his attack speed ( via ultimate or nidaime's helm ) the chances to hit you increase , thats why you need your skill to increase your chances to avoid those coming attacks.

so in 1 minute Gai will miss like 70% of his attacks , Perma miss
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PostSubject: Perma miss   Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:36 am

Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:06 pm

I liked this !

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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:43 pm

Its a good guide, although I too like tobi/twin BUT The poll is a lie you still won't pwn Croix even with this guide, maybe everyone else but Croix? No way Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Pwn Croix   Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:01 pm

Of course not pwn Croix, but I would beat Croix with whis build if i had a chance.
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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:58 pm

Croix wrote:
Its a good guide, although I too like tobi/twin BUT The poll is a lie you still won't pwn Croix even with this guide, maybe everyone else but Croix? No way Evil or Very Mad

agree in the twing fang part but i think you are going down Croix, since Eol start to reveling all the pro builds beside Eol > Croix
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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:31 am

InMemory]Cobain wrote:
Croix wrote:
Its a good guide, although I too like tobi/twin BUT The poll is a lie you still won't pwn Croix even with this guide, maybe everyone else but Croix? No way Evil or Very Mad

agree in the twing fang part but i think you are going down Croix, since Eol start to reveling all the pro builds beside Eol > Croix


Poor Croix.

Anyway, good build, but u can consider not sellin gelel if the other team have a lot of disables...
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PostSubject: Guide   Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:30 pm

Very good guide but i lost with a feeded lee with gelel but they had a lot of disablers.
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PostSubject: Re: Rock Lee/Taijutsu Specialist   Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:36 am

HenriqueFB wrote:
Very good guide but i lost with a feeded lee with gelel but they had a lot of disablers.

Dont understand , you get lee with gelel but you lost?
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PostSubject: Lee   Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:39 pm

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