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PostSubject: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySat Aug 20, 2011 1:21 pm

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Name: Hidan
AKA: Immortal Jashin Worshiper
Role: Tank
Descrption: A member of the Akatsuki, partnered with Kakuzu, many times refered as the "Zombie Combo". Hidan is a Jashin worshiper which is a belief in anything less than total destruction is a sin.

Stats:
Damage: 58-65
Range: 175 (melee)
Armor: 4
Movement speed: 300

Growth:
Strength: 21 +2.123
Agility: 17 +1.587
Intellegence: 12 +1.333


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Taijustu Frenzy
Description: Hidan is skilled in taijutsu and can get frustrated at times. In these times of rage he gains increased strength but will lose some of his accuracy do to his thrashing about.
Spell Type: Buff
Target: Self


Effects: Gains +5 STR, 10% AS, 10% miss/ Gains +10 STR, 10% AS, 10% miss/ Gains +20 STR, 20% AS, 20% miss/ Gains +30 STR, 20% AS, 20% miss
Mana Cost: 50/70/95/110
Cooldown: 40/35/30/25 seconds
Duration: 5/7/12/15 seconds
Cast Time: 0.20 seconds
Required Level: 1/3/5/7


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Jashin's Gift
Description: Due to Hidan's undying loyalty to Jashin's teachings, Jashin has has rewarded Hidan with the gift of immortality. This skill will give Hidan HP regeneration and armor bonus.
Spell Type: Passive buff
Target: Self

Effect: 2 HP regen, 2 Armor/ 3 HP regen, 3 Armor/ 5 HP regen, 5 Armor/ 6 HP regen, 6 Armor
Mana Cost: N/A
Duration: Passive
Required Level: 1/3/5/7


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Jashin's Teachings
Description: Through Jashin's Teachings, Hidan can implant the Mark of Jashin on an enemy and use what he has learned to improve himself through every kill, and use his master's power to kill the enemy. For every kill Hidan will become stronger, and for damage Hidan will share it with the hero that carries his Mark of Jashin.
Spell Type: Passive
Target: Enemy

Mark of Jashin will last 10 seconds, but will transfer to the next hero Hidan attacks. There can only be on Mark active at a time.
Effect: .050/.075/.100/.125 STR per creep kill, .25/.50/.75/1 STR per hero kill
Mana Cost: N/A
Damage Share: 15/20/25/30 %
Damage Share Type: Physical
Required level: 1/3/5/7


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Self-sacrifice
Description: Hidan has mastered the teachings and can share life threatening wounds with the enemy he has marked. Even though these wounds deal massive damage to the enemy it also damages Hidan.
Spell Type: ?
Target Enemy Hero

Damage: 175/250/350; 1/2/4 second stun
Mana Cost: 100/175/225
Cooldown: 120/90/60 seconds
Range: Affects the hero with "Mark of Jashin"
Cast Time: 1 second
Damage Type: Spell
Required Level: 6/11/16





Last edited by drake512 on Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:09 am; edited 9 times in total (Reason for editing : Made changes to skills)
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySat Aug 20, 2011 2:20 pm

a.) skill 1 is exactly the same as anko's pull.
b.) skill 2 by itself is just bleh, you should add it onto skill 3 and give a different skill for skill 2 (maybe something that taunt the enemy into attack hidan)
c.) skill 3 reminds me of nvb's hidan.
d.) ult has 4 lvls?
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySat Aug 20, 2011 2:23 pm

agree with kenichi , its too anko like
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PostSubject: Changes made   [SM] Hidan EmptySat Aug 20, 2011 2:58 pm

Changes:

1) Made "Mark of Jashin" a natural ability.
2) Changed skill 2 to a taunt type move.
3) Changed skill 1 to a buff due to original being to much like anko snake.
4) Typos to ult fixed.

Let me know if this is any better kenichi
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySat Aug 20, 2011 3:32 pm

U shud add duration for that frenzy skill. Oh and also dont u think that passive str gain isnt too low? So if my math dont fail me then u get 1 str for 10 creeps kills, if u are doing good ussually u can get to 100 creeps kills and it means 10 str and thats not much. But if u do buff it dont buff it too much so it isnt op Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySat Aug 20, 2011 6:31 pm

i don't like that 2nd spell.It's just like asuma's Sad
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PostSubject: Changes made   [SM] Hidan EmptySat Aug 20, 2011 9:51 pm

1) Changed skill 2 to a passive buff for hp regen and armor
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySat Aug 20, 2011 10:06 pm

you should buff ulty a bit.I mean 225 on last lvl is the amount of dmg normal ultimate deals on lvl 1.
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PostSubject: Changes made   [SM] Hidan EmptySat Aug 20, 2011 11:18 pm

Buffed up the ult for more damage
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySun Aug 21, 2011 6:33 am

In nwu there is no Natural abilities.
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySun Aug 21, 2011 7:24 am

Doesnt Kakashi have his Sharingan as a Natural ability.
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySun Aug 21, 2011 9:05 am

It is his second skill
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySun Aug 21, 2011 9:08 am

Oh well crap. Well maybe he can be the first i mean if not it can be moved into another skill.
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySun Aug 21, 2011 2:36 pm

drake512 wrote:
Oh well crap. Well maybe he can be the first i mean if not it can be moved into another skill.

thats why i said mix it with his passive lol
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySun Aug 21, 2011 10:12 pm

I'd get true strike(dunno it's name , that mace that makes your attack never miss) and turn on taijutsu frenzy all the time lol.
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySun Aug 21, 2011 10:40 pm

By popular demand I incorporated the "Mark of Jashin" into into Hidans passive ability.
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 1:29 am

Stats: If you're gonna justify having a maximum of 2 active skills, on a hero that essentially blossoms in the late game, he HAS to have low intelligence growth and a slightly lower base. I'm seeing that by level 16, I want him to be able to ult 3 times, at most! Agility might be okay, Reduce both his starting strength and growth.

1. Frenzy's bonuses are quite strong + 30 Strength for a non-ultimate skill is very strong, despite the 20% chance to miss. Nerf it, greatly, although not really a fan of this skill.

2. The bonus HP regen is somewhat understandable, as is the armor, it does a decent job making him able to stay in lane. But, possesses little synergy with his other skills. If he already can gain an instant bonus X Strength and gains passive strength from Creep/ Hero kills... then the bonus regen is quite mute. Because his strength will already be high, meaning his regen will always be insanely high.

3. 1/2 of this ability is like Hidan's from NvB, the other half is a strong damage return passive. Not really much else to say. It works for him in terms of one on one situations, but offers little beyond that.

4. Okay, so essentially this is the easiest hero to use in the game, if added. The ultimate does it's job, dealing the 175/250/325 damage to the opposing hero + X% from the passive ( at level 4 it deals a bonus 52.5/75/97.5 damage each time it is used)

Overall, it plays like a carry, which needs a good chunk of CS (or has to be fed hero kills), in order to be viable. In terms of what he does for his team? Nothing really. He possess no slows, stuns, snares, etc... to help his team. It's all geared towards him. Another downside is he has no abilities to help him pick up farm, which means it will be slow going for him.
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptyFri Aug 26, 2011 7:37 am

Changes:
Nerfed Taijutsu Frenzy
Gave Ult a stun
Lowered starting STR and INT, and lowered STR and INT growth
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySun Aug 28, 2011 12:33 am

Frenzy has no duration listed.

And really- a 4 second stun on your ultimate at level 3 every 15 seconds? Nah...
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySun Aug 28, 2011 5:27 am

Changes:

Gave Taijutsu Frenzy a duration
Increased Self-sacrifice cooldown time
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySun Aug 28, 2011 6:03 am

Hmm i dont know if it is bad or not, but isnt it kinda funny that the duration at lvl4 is longer than the cd?
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PostSubject: Re: [SM] Hidan   [SM] Hidan EmptySun Aug 28, 2011 10:09 am

Changes:

Fixed Taijutsu Frenzy duration/cd confusion
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