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XenySTyle

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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyMon Jul 18, 2011 9:22 pm

oh dont tell me that its so hard to understand... the one who has the aura, allied units,every1 nearby sasori.
jounin loses 100 hp he gets healed.

but i could increase the heal and add effect that those with aura get reduced dmg aswell,hmm?
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyMon Jul 18, 2011 9:25 pm

XenySTyle wrote:
oh dont tell me that its so hard to understand... the one who has the aura, allied units,every1 nearby sasori.
jounin loses 100 hp he gets healed.

but i could increase the heal and add effect that those with aura get reduced dmg aswell,hmm?

You phrased it terribly. That is why I couldn't understand the skill... and in regards to its potential... it is still bad. The minute amount of HP you regain from losing 100 HP won't save you at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyTue Jul 19, 2011 3:11 am

first are your edits:
"Slows the movement speed of the attacked unit by 12% and damages him 20 dmg/s for 2 seconds.(stacks with Third Kazekage's Poison Claw)"

your third kazekage doesn't have that anymore (poison claw)

"LvL4: Poison Senbons (Active), Costs 115MP. Cooldown 12 seconds.

Hiruko rapidly launches poison senbons from his mouth dealing 180 damage in 600AOE and decreases their damage by 10% for 5 seconds."

What damage is being decreased?

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-I see that it's micro attack heavy for the first two skills
it's just me but i wish 3rd kazekage could get another active
(I know he doesn't need it)

-make move spd and atk spd for puppets

-3rd skill: i think it should give some kind of ms and hp bonus in aoe, since this would include puppets as long as they're also there (right?) the ms helps them with chasing (as well as other allied units in aoe) but the puppet's melee passives will be able to hit more, and hp gives more survival (it's contingent that it has balanced level growth and not so much it will be op)

-4th skill: I just don't think it fits requirements to be an ult.
Blindly throwing a dart, but how about his ult is something like kakuzus, like "true puppet master form" or his true form in the anime, that increases his other 3 skills abilities (not cd like kakuzus) for a limited amount of time

or

if you want it purely supportive, i would imagine it's something like a channeling aoe like Tayuya's with debuffs

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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyTue Jul 19, 2011 8:27 am

XenySTyle wrote:
oh dont tell me that its so hard to understand... the one who has the aura, allied units,every1 nearby sasori.
jounin loses 100 hp he gets healed.

but i could increase the heal and add effect that those with aura get reduced dmg aswell,hmm?


man.... in spell desc u said that when sasori lose 100 hp allied units get healed.... and now u are saying that when creeps lose 100 hp he gets healed...... wich one?
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyTue Jul 19, 2011 8:54 am

both, it is aura. Aura works on any allied unit withing range
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyTue Jul 19, 2011 3:48 pm

i dont get it how hard is to understand how aura works...

but ill write more specific descriptions and fix the old ones. these days i dont rly have time.

ps. ill make 3rd skill and ulti stronger
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyTue Jul 19, 2011 6:53 pm

updated
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyTue Jul 19, 2011 8:19 pm

seems to be too strong now xD
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyTue Jul 19, 2011 8:23 pm

im gonna kill some1 xD Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyTue Jul 19, 2011 8:32 pm

i mean third skill need to be fixed )

And by the way, what you didn't like in my picture ) ?
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyTue Jul 19, 2011 8:37 pm

should i only add for spell resistance or lower the %?


i dont like his haircut Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 5:19 am

his 3rd skill is good now ...

i want to see sasori in next nwu vers bounce bounce cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 11:31 am

AdRyAn-IcE-mAn wrote:
his 3rd skill is good now ...

i want to see sasori in next nwu vers bounce bounce cheers

finnaly some1 who is pleased with it Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 1:52 pm

XenySTyle wrote:
AdRyAn-IcE-mAn wrote:
his 3rd skill is good now ...

i want to see sasori in next nwu vers bounce bounce cheers

finnaly some1 who is pleased with it Smile

He is pleased with everything related to sasori -.-'

Suggestion is not bad,It's pretty cool , and i'd like to see him,but not now...There are many other heroes that i'd like to see now Razz Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 2:00 pm

well to be honest i do like support/pusher hero and whant to see him as nwu lacks of real supports.

But i whant him to be perfect, not weak, no op so that's why im always telling you that smthing is wrong )
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 2:15 pm

Nyaaaasshka wrote:
well to be honest i do like support/pusher hero and whant to see him as nwu lacks of real supports.

But i whant him to be perfect, not weak, no op so that's why im always telling you that smthing is wrong )

I would guess your bf looks like sasori ? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 2:29 pm

i dont want him to be added now, they need to balance first.

i would only like to see an Approved next to the topic name Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 2:34 pm

XenySTyle wrote:
i dont want him to be added now, they need to balance first.

i would only like to see an Approved next to the topic name Very Happy

That's impossible.You see , Approved next to topic name get heroes who'll be released in next version.
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 2:46 pm

Jiraiya wrote:
XenySTyle wrote:
i dont want him to be added now, they need to balance first.

i would only like to see an Approved next to the topic name Very Happy

That's impossible.You see , Approved next to topic name get heroes who'll be released in next version.

than a post from eol that he will put this hero for upcoming heroes for the next updates Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 3:47 pm

XenySTyle wrote:
Jiraiya wrote:
XenySTyle wrote:
i dont want him to be added now, they need to balance first.

i would only like to see an Approved next to the topic name Very Happy

That's impossible.You see , Approved next to topic name get heroes who'll be released in next version.

than a post from eol that he will put this hero for upcoming heroes for the next updates Smile



if this wont happen in next days, they wont add him anymore....thats what i think

for Jiraiya: yes ! sasori is my fav char and i want to help xeny to balance him...and i had few ideas
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 5:08 pm

thx for all the good words guys Smile) and ofc thx for ur help reaching this far Very Happy

btw,this is the most viewed hero suggestion Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 6:48 pm

because we want him to be the next "HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER?!"

the only thing i would change now is the ult and i would change it entirely

everything else is fine with me
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 6:55 pm

mercinater wrote:
because we want him to be the next "HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER?!"

the only thing i would change now is the ult and i would change it entirely

everything else is fine with me
i dont get that part :/

what would u change on ulti? imo its good like this since he is a support
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 8:12 pm

XenySTyle wrote:
thx for all the good words guys Smile) and ofc thx for ur help reaching this far Very Happy

btw,this is the most viewed hero suggestion Very Happy Very Happy

Yes mostly bcuz you have 2 summons with a lot of spells Smile So a lot of ppl would comment since there aren't only 4 spells Wink

btw.Stvarno si dobro ovo napravio Smile Mozda je kazekageov wall malo imba 200 damage block i 2 sec stuna al posto nema skoro nijedan nuke(i know this isn't english but it's not related to you it's mesagge for him Razz ) Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand   Sasori - Sasori of the Red Sand - Page 3 EmptyWed Jul 20, 2011 8:30 pm

well ye,might be coz of that Razz
i just need to learn modeling and i can make whole,brand new heroes Very Happy


for jiraiya: 200dmg nije tolko puno ja msm.
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